New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby Finchy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:34 pm

Im struggling to find the correct Rail pressure sensor, is this the one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-1-7C ... 257bd164df

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby ecuedit » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:26 pm

Look for part number: 0 281 002 398

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby OdinEidolon » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:50 pm

After driving this monster one goes:
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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby Finchy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:33 pm

Browsing around this sensor is hard to come by in the UK and very expensive. Can the 1800 bar sensor from the.1.6 HDI not be used?

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby Nicowico » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:00 am

Map pressure sensor is cheap. Only 31,00 euro.

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby joost » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:44 am

Hahahah, this is amazing..!

Though, the torque is not quite yet to my liking.. ;) Disregarding the different dyno's our cars have been tested on, your 'IQ93' map on my car produces (exactly) 20.0 Nm more, I won't care to 'lose' 20 Nm since I know peugeot stock setup cannot handle 441.9 Nm. Probably it will be able to handle 421.9Nm. And, I'm pretty confident that the clutch can handle the 214.8 BHP. Ofcourse I'm not sure yet...
Now, my own map peaks at 2319rpm (441.9Nm) and this one peaks at 2603rpm, and by looking at the curve, the torque does not 'explode' from 1500rpm onwards.. Though, I'm pretty sure this detail will be optimised over time.. ;)

I'm very very interested in the further development of this..! :D

VW MAP sensor can be found here:
http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/vw-3-bar-map-manifold-pressure-sensor-038-906-051-c.html

Opel 1.7 CDTI Fuel rail pressure sensor is a bit harder to find.
I have found 2 at a dutch website common for car scrap-yards/breakers (onderdelenlijn). The only eBay ad I've found is this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160991110367. This website claims to sell them, but is currently out of stock: http://store.dieselinjectorsuk.co.uk/iveco-daily-2004-2.3l-hpi-cherokee-jeep-bosch-fuel-pressure-sensor-0281002398.html.
I guess this one is slightly more expensive, but if you're kind of lucky you'll probably be able to find the sensor locally by searching for it's Bosch P/N: 0 281 002 398.

And, yeah, I'm confident enough to order a pair of these sensors.. :D

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby joost » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:04 am

Finchy wrote:Browsing around this sensor is hard to come by in the UK and very expensive. Can the 1800 bar sensor from the.1.6 HDI not be used?
Question is, will you have to reverse engineer the sensor signal all over again? If the sensor is more common, it might be worth it..? Peugeot P/N seems '1920GW' other info is quite hard to find to me..

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby ecuedit » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:38 am

Finchy wrote:Browsing around this sensor is hard to come by in the UK and very expensive. Can the 1800 bar sensor from the.1.6 HDI not be used?


no, this is only sensor ever produced that can be used to work as perfect as original.

I was looking for it for 14 days.
It has the same screw part, curve, size and 3 pinouts. And it is 1800bar ;)

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby ecuedit » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:43 am

joost wrote:Hahahah, this is amazing..!

Though, the torque is not quite yet to my liking.. ;) Disregarding the different dyno's our cars have been tested on, your 'IQ93' map on my car produces (exactly) 20.0 Nm more, I won't care to 'lose' 20 Nm since I know peugeot stock setup cannot handle 441.9 Nm. Probably it will be able to handle 421.9Nm. And, I'm pretty confident that the clutch can handle the 214.8 BHP. Ofcourse I'm not sure yet...
Now, my own map peaks at 2319rpm (441.9Nm) and this one peaks at 2603rpm, and by looking at the curve, the torque does not 'explode' from 1500rpm onwards.. Though, I'm pretty sure this detail will be optimised over time.. ;)

I'm very very interested in the further development of this..! :D

VW MAP sensor can be found here:
http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/vw-3-bar-map-manifold-pressure-sensor-038-906-051-c.html

Opel 1.7 CDTI Fuel rail pressure sensor is a bit harder to find.
I have found 2 at a dutch website common for car scrap-yards/breakers (onderdelenlijn). The only eBay ad I've found is this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160991110367. This website claims to sell them, but is currently out of stock: http://store.dieselinjectorsuk.co.uk/iveco-daily-2004-2.3l-hpi-cherokee-jeep-bosch-fuel-pressure-sensor-0281002398.html.
I guess this one is slightly more expensive, but if you're kind of lucky you'll probably be able to find the sensor locally by searching for it's Bosch P/N: 0 281 002 398.

And, yeah, I'm confident enough to order a pair of these sensors.. :D


Torque at low rpm can be done as same as at your tune.
The main trick is in SOI and fueling at low rpm ;)

just say i wish xxx nm at xxx rpm and here it goes :lol:

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Re: New retune: Peugeot 406 2.2 HDI Saloon 215 HP, 422 NM

Postby joost » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:52 pm

ecuedit wrote:Torque at low rpm can be done as same as at your tune.
The main trick is in SOI and fueling at low rpm ;)

just say i wish xxx nm at xxx rpm and here it goes :lol:


Nice! But ofcourse, I wouldn't expect otherwise from you.. ;) this will simply be amazing! Now I'm in the process of obtaining the sensors, and surely it'll probably take some time all in all. I'm very curious how it goes (also for top-speed). Ofcourse I'll post any results when I get to that stage..! :D

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