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bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby prostr_ » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:13 pm

hi

I'm new to this tuning world

I'm researching some tools to work
and I would like to hear your opinion about them


    - bFlash
    - Autotunner
    - MagicMotorsport FLEX


https://www.bflash.eu
https://www.autotuner-tool.com
https://magicmotorsport.shop

I've already used the autotuner, found it very interactive and simple to use

but I found bflash very interesting, but I never had the opportunity to use

the same about the MAGIC FLEX
I found it interesting, but there are 2 pieces of equipment (I think this is a disadvantage)
but it seems to be very well built

thanks

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby prostr_ » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:26 pm

I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages of each tool.

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby Alonedar » Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:20 pm

cmd por supuesto

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby xsatman » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:27 pm

autotuner is without subscription

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby oliva » Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:26 am

Autotuner reads files with safe areas. This device is not entirely dedicated to ECU cloning etc. There are other tools for that. Flex has the ability to read full files via OBD and in case of writing a full file, in case of failure, the ECU (processor mask) cannot be identified because it has interrupted the transmission of the full file and the Micro ID is unavailable. Then it only saves the boot mode. Writing with Autotuner is safe because if the transmission is interrupted you can re-save the file as Autotuner does not save areas. virtual eeproms, indexes and sensitive CPU data, creates new data for itself, therefore these files are different, but it's for security. Of course, Autotuner reads and writes full files using the boot, bench method. Those complaining about Autotuner are those who use ECM for modification as ECM sometimes additionally recognizes HW / SW by file size, e.g. 4MB. For example, if Autotuner is reading 2MB, the file must be enlarged (x2) to 4MB. I use Autotuner and if I went back in time I would buy it again. In addition, I have a Trasdata that complements it. bFlash is a very good device. It works like Autotuner only when it comes to readings after OBD, but unfortunately it supports much less drivers than Flex and Autotuner. The graphic design and operation of the program resembles Autotuner.

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby jurebv » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:12 am

autotuner only advantage over flex is subscription and data logger , everything else like tech support and vehicle coverage is on flex side , also i dont think subscription is a disadvantage, developers need money for research, also can you remember few years ago who invented med17/edc17 bench mode (boot without opening) ...magicmotorsport did....everyone else just copied...flex is present and future.....

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby overspeed » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:43 pm

Have here
Kess
Ktag
Bflash
autotuner

For the old ones I use Kess, to "exotic" either as volvo V40 etc.

For log, Bflash is your choice, great in bench/boot...

for coverage Autuner, as Bflash dont change version when they don´t have the file on server.

Ktag I dont use a long time

Dont have flex, but a friend has and have large issues with BMW and Mini

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby Remapped » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:22 am

Have myself AT from the choice. Good tool, hard to f**k up ecus. Have had few mistakes while flashing with it. For example once the battery was empty on laptop and switched off while flashing psa dcm6.2a. changed battery on laptop and saw afterwards that flashing was succesfull.

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Re: bFlash x Autotunner x MagicMotorsport FLEX

Postby bogdandpr » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:32 pm

autotuner is very intuitive tool. I use it mostly for mercedes ecu, anything from edc16 to md1 ecu's and i cant say anything about it. 2 years since I own it, 200+ ecu R/W and it never failed on me. I also have a flex slave, i personally dont like it, the interface is weird, not really organized, the flex box is a pain in the ... to use... im thinking about selling the flex anyway, it just collects dust...

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