EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby rlees85 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:05 pm

That is an odd one... maybe admin will be around soon to tell us what that map even is as I havent got a clue! :?

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby ecuedit » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:20 am

Hi,
I am not really sure what is the question... ;)

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby OdinEidolon » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:51 am

Did you take a look at this topic?
edc15c2-3d-graphs-units-hw-0281010877-sw-1037353776-t54

Reading those images can help you out a lot with maps recognition ;)

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby rlees85 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:35 pm

hinkxx seems to have identified a map (seen a few posts ago). It is not the same as any of the images in the thread, though it looks like a smaller version of the turbo maps.

The question is, what is this map, that hinkxx identified?

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby hinkxx » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:44 pm

I located one more I think - Cranking IQ,

10x8,
coolant x engine speed

factor 0.01
units mm^3/stroke

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby hinkxx » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:13 pm

rlees85 wrote:http://www.ecuedit.com/post839#p839

If you look in the image above:
(again)

http://www.ecuedit.com/resources/peugeot-406-2002-2-2-hdi-manual-bosch-edc15c2/299

It shows two different IQ axis at beginning of map area. How to tell which is for SOI? ;)

If you look a little further above the selected area, there is two different RPM axis too...

Anyway take a look when you get some free time :) I won't have time to play until after the weekend now anyways


I'm trying to understand this too..

There are two 1x16 RPM and two 1x16 IQ axes that would fit the bill:
0x61026: 50232 16 200 400 600 800 1000 1250 1500 1750 2000 2250 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
0x6104A: 50232 16 200 400 600 800 1000 1250 1500 1750 2000 2250 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
0x61082: 50832 16 00 200 400 800 1200 1600 2000 2400 2800 3200 3600 4000 4500 5000 6000 7000
0x610BA: 50856 16 00 200 400 800 1200 1600 2000 2400 2800 3200 3600 4000 4500 5000 6000 7000

Now looking at this thread pilot-injection-t125 it got me thinking that :idea: :
0x61026 and 0x61082 could be for SOI
0x6104A and 0x610BA could be for Pilot Injection

Why would they use two of each since they have the same values? Beats me, best I could come up with would be that you can change the values in axis for SOI and it would not effect Pilot :?:

I guess to be sure one needs to change a value or two on the axis, remap, diag and spot the difference..

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby Alex.T » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:40 pm

hinkxx wrote:
rlees85 wrote:http://www.ecuedit.com/post839#p839

If you look in the image above:
(again)

http://www.ecuedit.com/resources/peugeot-406-2002-2-2-hdi-manual-bosch-edc15c2/299

It shows two different IQ axis at beginning of map area. How to tell which is for SOI? ;)

If you look a little further above the selected area, there is two different RPM axis too...

Anyway take a look when you get some free time :) I won't have time to play until after the weekend now anyways


I'm trying to understand this too..

There are two 1x16 RPM and two 1x16 IQ axes that would fit the bill:
0x61026: 50232 16 200 400 600 800 1000 1250 1500 1750 2000 2250 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
0x6104A: 50232 16 200 400 600 800 1000 1250 1500 1750 2000 2250 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
0x61082: 50832 16 00 200 400 800 1200 1600 2000 2400 2800 3200 3600 4000 4500 5000 6000 7000
0x610BA: 50856 16 00 200 400 800 1200 1600 2000 2400 2800 3200 3600 4000 4500 5000 6000 7000

Now looking at this thread pilot-injection-t125 it got me thinking that :idea: :
0x61026 and 0x61082 could be for SOI
0x6104A and 0x610BA could be for Pilot Injection

Why would they use two of each since they have the same values? Beats me, best I could come up with would be that you can change the values in axis for SOI and it would not effect Pilot :?:

I guess to be sure one needs to change a value or two on the axis, remap, diag and spot the difference..


I've got to this a while ago, too..
But I made my peace with it, and let go...

Actually it's frustrating to find something and not to know what it's for.
I'm very curious (again) about these double axes.
I'll try some changes and diag tomorrow on my 2.0 :?
then I'll let you know 8-)

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby Alex.T » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:35 pm

Having some issues with my diag kit right now...
I hope to try those axes by this week

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby Relic » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:24 pm

hinkxx wrote:
rlees85 wrote:http://www.ecuedit.com/post839#p839

If you look in the image above:
(again)

http://www.ecuedit.com/resources/peugeot-406-2002-2-2-hdi-manual-bosch-edc15c2/299

It shows two different IQ axis at beginning of map area. How to tell which is for SOI? ;)

If you look a little further above the selected area, there is two different RPM axis too...

Anyway take a look when you get some free time :) I won't have time to play until after the weekend now anyways


I'm trying to understand this too..

There are two 1x16 RPM and two 1x16 IQ axes that would fit the bill:
0x61026: 50232 16 200 400 600 800 1000 1250 1500 1750 2000 2250 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
0x6104A: 50232 16 200 400 600 800 1000 1250 1500 1750 2000 2250 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
0x61082: 50832 16 00 200 400 800 1200 1600 2000 2400 2800 3200 3600 4000 4500 5000 6000 7000
0x610BA: 50856 16 00 200 400 800 1200 1600 2000 2400 2800 3200 3600 4000 4500 5000 6000 7000

Now looking at this thread pilot-injection-t125 it got me thinking that :idea: :
0x61026 and 0x61082 could be for SOI
0x6104A and 0x610BA could be for Pilot Injection

Why would they use two of each since they have the same values? Beats me, best I could come up with would be that you can change the values in axis for SOI and it would not effect Pilot :?:

I guess to be sure one needs to change a value or two on the axis, remap, diag and spot the difference..


Perhaps they are cold running map axis and standard running map axis ?
Would be bad to edit the axis of the wrong map :lol:

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Re: EDC15: Increase Rail Pressure

Postby Alex.T » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:19 am

Relic wrote:Perhaps they are cold running map axis and standard running map axis ?

In that case, axes would be slightly different (maybe shifted <- PSA style)
In this axes are exactly the same, so it wouldn't be any difference between cold and standard running...

PS: try not to quote something big, it makes the thread messy and hard to read ;)

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