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RATE MY TUNE Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI PD160 CUPRA

Postby madmax93 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:59 am

Ibiza Cupra TDI PD160 can´t increase the boost :(


Hello, after some trying on various tdi-maps i started to modify the Map of my own car, a seat ibiza Cupra with bpx engine. The map is nearly the same to a 150 HP arl TDI engine. Using edc-suite and winols, I modified only codeblock 2, because after testing some small modifications i noticed that my car is using this one. i did some changes to the Torque map, increasing the max values to 70mg, changed the values of the smoke map to 70 mg and 1200mbar. I changed all values of I.Q. by MAP and I.Q. by MAF to 70mg. i increased the SOI Limiter about 1.5° and changed axis data up to 70mg in all necessary maps such as torque map, smoke map, soi, duration.
looking on the Air maps, i canged axis data of the target boost map up to 70 mg and decided to try a max boost of 2700mbar ( 2550 orig.) i increased the atm Boost limiter to 2770 mbar max and set the SVBL to 2820 mbar. i modified the N75 map as shown in the edc15 arl 150 tutorial , but also tried it orig, and it made no diffrence , no boost spikes at all. The car is running well with this setup and takes less fuel, what i think is mainly because of the advanced timing with EOI at max 6° ATDC or less, but any how i cant get the boost up. :D i have a bluetooth obd interface and when i´m picking up the live-Data, using torque pro, it schows me 1.55 BAR of boost, such as before. the thing is that even with the increasing I.Q. of 70mg, and the orig. Boost of 1550mbar, the car does´nt smoke at all, at least not more then before the remap. So, is that possible?

I think that some other map is limiting my boost, but even using WINOLS I could not figure out wich kind of map that could be. I did some research on the internet, but could not find usefull information for my problem.

the thig is, that in edc15p-suite the program shows me: Category: probable Maps; Subcategory: Turbo; Boostmap. i made a screenshot, but there is no axis data and the Values make no sence to me, but maybe this one is the map that make me such problems.
Hope I did not bore U guys with my essay, and hopefully u have some ideas. Again sorry for my bad english. thx
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Re: RATE MY TUNE Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI PD160 CUPRA

Postby juice » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:19 pm

As I read your 'too long' story, you have stock hardware. Are you sure that your turbo will keep 2820 max boost or 2700 requested ?
I would take a look on Garret GT1749V compressor map and youll have a surprize that max surge line is 2.6 bar

You have 73 mg of fuel in torque map but your duration 1 map is not edited , well not so much additional power.
You duration will go on duration 0 only starting from 3500 rpm if you look at SOI and duration selector maps , but even like this i think you added too much to Start of injection.
Smoke map values should be bigger than torque(to sleep better in the night and for the sake of tuning behaviours).
And again..driver wish is lower than torque , is not the way you should tune, is not dangerous but you`ll never have more than 70 mg and in real life never more than 65 mg(your max duration 1 injection map)..maybe until 3500 rpm will go on duration 0 and will know to keep more fueling.

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Re: RATE MY TUNE Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI PD160 CUPRA

Postby madmax93 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:58 pm

Thank you very much mate, Idid some changes, i will post it when i have better internet.. but, were do i find this gt1749vb surge line map? I really have no clue were to search for it :D

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Re: RATE MY TUNE Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI PD160 CUPRA

Postby madmax93 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:05 pm

oh I forgot about my modyfications:
so far I got
-3.0" exhaustsystem and decat downpipe.. kind of straight pipe
-a 2.5" intercooling tubes self made of aluminium, i tested it on a max pressure of 2.2 bar
-single mass wheel and a sport clutch for max 450nm

i plan to install a gt 17/20 hybrid turbocharger and firad or bosio injectors, and if possible I would like to go for a max power of 225-230 ps and 450nm.

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Re: RATE MY TUNE Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI PD160 CUPRA

Postby juice » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:03 am

Great idea :) you will need a lot of recalibrations after bigger nozzles and bigger turbo.
Rewrite N75 map(closed vanes more in low rpm to have better spool), for bigger nozzles i suggest to keep SOI stock and go with fueling until you see no smoke or very little.

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