Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

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Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby Fuse » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:23 am

And where goes my "map" (made with ecm2k1)

Comments, good our bad will be appreciated.
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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby ecuedit » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:47 pm

hi there,
I have looked at the file just for a moment.
I started and ended at injection duration :) well, for a little moment I have checked one turbo map.

:shock: you increased injection duration for 600 microseconds...and almost on a whole range of IQ.

Can you post the mappack, it will take less time to rate it, and I could do it map by map.

Post the turbo type, boost increase looks very suspicious for me :| .

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby Fuse » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:34 pm

ecuedit wrote:hi there,
I have looked at the file just for a moment.
I started and ended at injection duration :) well, for a little moment I have checked one turbo map.

:shock: you increased injection duration for 600 microseconds...and almost on a whole range of IQ.

Can you post the mappack, it will take less time to rate it, and I could do it map by map.

Post the turbo type, boost increase looks very suspicious for me :| .


Just remenber, i did this with ecm, not winols and the values dindt make much sense for me. :oops:

The turbo is with mechanical wastegate and doesnt even have any sensor of any kind on the intake, it only "sens" the barometric pressure (?) :?

I think that I just did percentage on this one...

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby ecuedit » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:08 am

hi,
before changing anything you should know what the numbers represent.
If you increase your Injection duration so hard,
you will have more fuel consumption, more smoke, less lubricated cylinders (fuel will flush your lubrication much more).

Question about the turbo was for possible hardware upgrades. So you are running stock hardware...

Before tuning your car you have to know specification about your hardware.

Will take a look at your file closer.

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby Fuse » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:05 am

ecuedit wrote:hi,
before changing anything you should know what the numbers represent.
If you increase your Injection duration so hard,
you will have more fuel consumption, more smoke, less lubricated cylinders (fuel will flush your lubrication much more).

Question about the turbo was for possible hardware upgrades. So you are running stock hardware...

Before tuning your car you have to know specification about your hardware.

Will take a look at your file closer.


The main reason that i was doing the change with percentage was because im not full aware of what the values are :|

About hardware, for now, stock, beside a KN filter. I will remove cat and put a turbo from a 1.6hdi 110hp.

Im starting to learn how to use WinOls, and we will continuing talk about this ;)

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby Fuse » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:32 am

Already with WinOls, im so off this, have no ideia of what i see on the dump file :s

Going from one map to the other and its graphs alright, but cant understand nothing :|

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby ecuedit » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:14 am

Do it step by step. I have posted the list of maps that has to be tuned.
Also the 3d previews of those maps:

maps-needed-for-tuning-edc15c2-t29
edc15c2-3d-graphs-units-hw-0281010877-sw-1037353776-t54

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby Fuse » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:08 pm

ecuedit wrote:Do it step by step. I have posted the list of maps that has to be tuned.
Also the 3d previews of those maps:

maps-needed-for-tuning-edc15c2-t29
edc15c2-3d-graphs-units-hw-0281010877-sw-1037353776-t54


Mine is EDC16C

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby ecuedit » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:16 pm

Yes, but winols can recognize some maps by itself, not all of them.
There is a little bit harder to locate maps manually because there is no markers in EDC16.
You can still recognize some maps in 3d view.

From the map list you can see approx. what all you have to find.
It takes a time and skill. Try to locate as much as possible.

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Re: Citroen Xsara 1.4 HDi by me

Postby Fuse » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:18 pm

ecuedit wrote:Yes, but winols can recognize some maps by itself, not all of them.
There is a little bit harder to locate maps manually because there is no markers in EDC16.
You can still recognize some maps in 3d view.

From the map list you can see approx. what all you have to find.
It takes a time and skill. Try to locate as much as possible.


Thank you, i will.

p.s.: even the typical torque limiter map is hard to find, but i will! :twisted:

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