Piggy back tuning or real tuning?

by **Pierre3400** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:38 pm

Hey guys,

I have a friend with a Toyota IQ 1,4 diesel, her dad has a Yaris with a piggyback tuning on it. Runs fine, but since we can, why not tune it threw the real mapping.

My issue is, I still dont have software i trust, and i dont know enough about this yet.

Is is worth getting the piggyback, or is someone here able to tune the mapping and send it back? A fee for the work will of course be paid.

by **abc-tuning** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:33 pm

Hello,

The companys always advertise you will get good power/torque but its not always like that.
Mostly with price range around <50-200> you will get same power from +5 to +15 hp
( and tuning boxes doesnt control the turbine and sometimes car black smoke )

But with ECU Tuning you can get much more power/torque without any visible smoke and lower fuel consumption.

If you have equipment for downloading original flash from the ECU we can always help

Regards,
ABC-TUNING

by **zok** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:09 pm

If you want to make a DIY piggyback, I can upload the last revision of a well-proven schematics - I tested it on more than 100 cars. :thumbup:

by **RPM freak** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:36 pm

There is no dilemma - Real tuning is the only good way to do it.

by **BokiRS** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:59 pm

by **zok** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:28 am

That is true, but if you can't or don't want to mess with ECU, a piggyback is a way to go. :shifty:

by **tarzan** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:56 am

zok wrote:If you want to make a DIY piggyback, I can upload the last revision of a well-proven schematics - I tested it on more than 100 cars. :thumbup:

Zok, I would say go for it! ;D Let us see what you have.

I agree with you, that it is a good solution for owners who really don't want to spend 200+ on proper chiptuning, but wish to have more power from their cars; it's just cheap.

A good DIY for older VAGs (VP pump) is also 100% better than a cheap 50-100 bucks tuning box - you can make a 2 channel one with MAP and pump "adjustment" fore much less than 50 bucks, for what you get just a resistor on a timer....

by **dean21b** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:54 pm

Hi, tuning box will never be a better solution than real tuning with soft. All good tuners know the reason why, but users do not know it, they think it is dangerous to do ecu and so on.
With box can only add fuel and nothing more.

by **sparco** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:38 pm

Not true, a decent piggyback system will be able to intercept and modify all sorts of datasignals.

by **dahacker** » Mon May 05, 2014 11:08 am

I started off with piggyback tuning some years ago... results were quite good and risks of damaging the ECU quite low. However when I moved to real tuning, then the results were much better although I have to admit that there always the fear of bricking the ECU!