Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

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Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby pittatore » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:38 pm

Guys need help if somebody could explane me,
started to remap my mod file again a little bit, using as a platform my ori map but when i open the injection at part throttle map with Titanium I see a huge difference between ori map values and the previous remaped mod map(attached pics of them).
Am I working at the wrong ori map or the decimals in axes are showing wrong?
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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby pittatore » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:31 am

Here are the files
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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby adriancl » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:57 am

ECM isn't the best way ,leave it and use winols.
This are the real differences in your map:
diff..JPG
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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby pittatore » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:09 am

Easy to say :lol:
When i just could find my maps in Winols because it seems that damos for this file doesnt exist :?

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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby adriancl » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:55 pm

pittatore wrote:Easy to say :lol:
When i just could find my maps in Winols because it seems that damos for this file doesnt exist :?


You're right, easy to say, but need some work(10 minutes) to find the real name of this map,axes, factor and offset.
Map name-Injection basic map,start of main inj.without pilot injection
Unit-Grad KW
Factor-0,023438,Offset 0,Precision 4
Yaxe-unit RPM,factor 1,Offset 0,Precision 2
Xaxe-unit-mm³,factor 0,01,offset 0,Precision 4
Can find this map on any damos file from Alfa EDC15,folder ZUINJ_03=Control unit function,fuel metering pilot and main injection.
Here you are your map with factor 0,023438 and precision 4 and with factor 1 and precision 0, as you can see in ECM(ECM don't show you values for X axe,and if you want to inject more than 55mmc of diesel must change also Xaxe values ,impossible to do with ECM)
That is the reason that must use winols and not ECM.
map with factor.JPG

map without factor and precision 0.JPG
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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby pittatore » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:53 pm

Now I'm confused, also it shows here different values, what's the clue? :? :wtf:

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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby BokiRS » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:34 am

The clue is dont use ecm titanium :-)

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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby adriancl » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:28 am

pittatore wrote:Now I'm confused, also it shows here different values, what's the clue? :? :wtf:


As BokiRS say, leave ECM, says nothing about this map,only RPM axe is correct,X axe is wong, map values are nonsense.
What say Winols-everything you need,all clear.
What is "Injection at part throttle map"???-nothing,what is inside map(Z axe)?
What is "Injection basic map,start of main inj",units degKW-all you need to know about this map.
Tuning with ECM is as a ride in the cave without flashlight.

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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby pittatore » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:59 am

Well then I have no choice but to start to learn WinOLS more deeper.
I'm in a stadium now to import damos files although when I see the list of maps it difficult for me to find the maps relevant for modification.
Could somebody generious shortly explane me what file names to search for?

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Re: Huge different in values in maps of ori and mod

Postby adriancl » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:49 pm

pittatore wrote:Well then I have no choice but to start to learn WinOLS more deeper.
I'm in a stadium now to import damos files although when I see the list of maps it difficult for me to find the maps relevant for modification.
Could somebody generious shortly explane me what file names to search for?


Are you kidding mate? In a damos file for Alfa EDC15 there are over 6000maps.
Read first folders name ,if if you're lucky with a Damos in english , than open and see what maps you find interesting to study.
If Damos file is in german,must also learn some german words,hard work , but also hard to find a shortcut how are you trying to do now.
Hard work=great result
Shortcut=damn mod files

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