franz727272 wrote:Where do you add new colums to get more fuel?
On SOI or on rail?
in both?

If I have the last columns on rail an soi set to 75 mg/str and I rise up to 80 mg/str I'll get more fuel, just changing x axis table? :?

The ECU will interpolate the last column with the last column.
In other words If last SOI column is 75mg and you request 80mg...the ECU will uses the 75mg values.
That can be very dangerous unless 65, 70 and 75mg are all identical anyway.
If the last values are identical for the high IQ values than it wouldnt really matter.

The problem is where the high IQ values are not the same.
For those tables you need to delete exisiting columns and create new columns.
Use linear inerpolation to fill in the new columns.

Ideally its best to find all tables that use 75mg and modify the axes.
For the civic, 4 of the SOI tables only hit 70 mg and add a 7.5mg column instead.
This 7.5mg table can create a major issue with the linear interpolation.
So personally instead of using 75mg @ 5mg increments... I would modifiy the tables to be 90mg @ 6 mg increments.
This would alllow you to map IQs greater than 75mg as good as possible.
You can use 6, 9, 12mg for the 70mg SOI tables with a max of 84mg in the last column.
[NB NM>iq tables and such also need upgrading to suit.]

The duration tables only extend to 100mm3 anyway = 83~84mg
I think requesting fuel higher than this would simply not be worth it..

83MG *(2.204 LB PER KG/1000000) * (2000RPM *2 STROKES) * 60MIN = 39.672 LB HR FUEL USE @ 2000RPM
83MG *(2.204 LB PER KG/1000000) * (4000RPM *2 STROKES) * 60MIN = 79.344 LB HR FUEL USE @ 4000RPM

43.90368 /0.34 = 129.1 BHP @ 2000RPM (129.1 *5252/2000RPM = 339.1 LB FT)
87.80736 /0.38 = 231.1 BHP @ 4000RPM (231.1 *5252/4000RPM = 303.4 LB FT)

340 lb ft & 231 bhp is pretty much hyrbid turbo fueling anyway.
http://www.celtictuning.co.uk/pages/pub ... ge%203.pdf

THX Relic,
more clear explain for my (google) traslation :) .
Is still hard to understand because google traslation do not make miracle but it is much better now. ;)

The ECU will interpolate the last column with the last column.

So in SOI A interpolation is 70 mg column to 75 mg column and same value....????
why we have more column with the same values in column? :?
Also other map table:
Rail pressure (5 table) max 75 mg (x axis - From 60/65/70/ 75 mg same value column);
Turbo boost (3 table) max 75 mg (x axis - From 65/70/ 75 mg same value column);
Vnt (3 table) max 75 mg (x axis - From 65/70/ 75 mg same value column);
Soi a (5 table) max 75 mg (x axis - From 60/65/70/ 75 mg same value column)
Soi b (4 table) max 70 mg (x axis - From 60/65/ 70 mg same value column)
Injection Quantity Adjustment (1 table) max 75 mg....
have the last column value equal to the column that precedes them. So shoul be right if in ma DW I ask 80 mg change
all value in x axis to 80 mg...???


totally confused :?

For those tables you need to delete exisiting columns and create new columns.
Use linear inerpolation to fill in the new columns.

Can you made spreadshet to linear interpolation, or is possible to use turer pro making function that can interpolate value?
I would like change x axis to 80 mg but i do not know how to calculate right value.

There is many tables that tunerpro does not show.
You need to find all the tables in winols that have IQ as axes.
You then need to modfy the axes/values of all tables where the high iq are not the same.

nm>iq only goes to 450nm = 75mg.
So these tables need adjusting.
IQ adjustment needs changing.
There are others that need changing too.

If you do not know how to use linear interpolation....you should not be touching the maps :| :!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_interpolation
Going above 75mg properly is not a 5 minute job. ;)

Relic wrote:There is many tables that tunerpro does not show.
You need to find all the tables in winols that have IQ as axes.
You then need to modfy the axes/values of all tables where the high iq are not the same.

nm>iq only goes to 450nm = 75mg.
So these tables need adjusting.
IQ adjustment needs changing.
There are others that need changing too.

If you do not know how to use linear interpolation....you should not be touching the maps :| :!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_interpolation
Going above 75mg properly is not a 5 minute job. ;)

Thx
I can use Interpolation with ecm titanium the funtcion made for me, i can't use with other program like winols etcc...because I dont know how to.. :thumbup:

i try to write the file with MPPS, but the car don't start !

you have lost injection coding. you must have ori files read by bdm.

Thank you very much for sharing this information, best regards.

ag71 wrote:you have lost injection coding. you must have ori files read by bdm.

I thougt EDC16 can be tuned via OBD with MPPS? Can you give more detailed information?

greetings

Hi great info, can some explain me who can I eliminate de egr from the map. thanks

good information
thank you